政党社团之声
[发表评论] [查看此文评论]    缅甸风云
[主页]->[政党社团之声]->[缅甸风云]->[Talks With Hso Khan Pha Who Declared Shan Independence]
BURMA-缅甸风云
·Saw Hsar Gay Talks about Karen History & KNU Revolution
·貌强苏沙吉准将续谈克伦革命(1)
·印度关闭缅甸Mizzima新闻社
·Mizzima News Office sealed off by Democratic India
·AEIOU 2008学年招生通告
·糖尿病民间验方
·心腦血管病的預防
·漫谈印欧语系
·2007年缅甸国内外微妙变化
·貌强:Harn Yawnghwe, EU, USA and Burma’s Junta
·从“Honsawatoi”亡国250年谈起
·缅甸孟族纪念“Hongsawatoi ”亡国250周年
·温教授问美国为何不出手
·缅甸封杀“缅甸华商商会”
·缅甸当局封杀百年华商社团
·貌强:Act Now or Regret Later with the Unholy Alliance
·缅甸已找台阶解除对华商社团的封杀
·论缅甸吴努政府与台湾阿扁政府
·缅甸众土族再三赴美寻求支持
·由印尼华人要人权民族权想起
·缅甸世道乱——坏人有好报
·社会主义“居者有其屋”
·丹瑞大将打坐差点走火入魔
·缅甸掸邦第一特区政府(果敢)网站与彭主席访谈
·缅甸丹瑞大将参禅新法:一念代万念
·中風救命法——针刺十指尖与两耳垂放血
·EWOB/AEIOU 的声明
·缅甸僧侣和平示威,丹瑞大将心乱如麻
·缅甸和平示威扩大,丹瑞家人领先逃亡
·反对无理威胁和平集会与游行
·缅甸民族委员会NCUB 对广大士兵的呼吁
·缅甸联邦民族委员会告人民书-3
·SDU’S STATEMENT ON RECENT SPDC’S CRACKDOWN/貌强
·SDU对军政府最近开枪镇压的声明
·缅甸军政府凶杀案将告国际刑事法庭
·恢复掸邦委员会支持缅甸僧侣与民众
·缅侨向联合国与国际机构火急呼救!
·制止缅甸军政府杀害僧侣学生民众
·请求教皇给缅甸人民雪中送炭
·缅甸医生专业医务人员呼吁总罢工
·教皇雪中送炭:为缅甸苦难人民祈祷
·正义要伸张!公道要讨回!
·众土族委员会ENC对缅甸当前局势的声明
·缅甸的华人悲歌
·缅侨恳求中国在安理会勿再投否决票
·全缅学生民主先锋谈缅甸危机
·缅甸律师委员会对甘巴里《缅甸报告》的看法
·缅甸民族委员会NCUB欢迎安理会声明
·缅甸当前急务纵横观
·感谢德国人民支持缅甸和平正义斗争
·缅甸动乱,丹瑞大将有话说
·缅甸众土族国际公开大学AEIOU急需捐款
·缅甸丹瑞大帝狞笑睥睨自豪
·老战友 Prof. Win 的心底话
·毒品枭雄昆沙盖棺论定
·老战友还有话说
·缅甸众土族最欢迎昂山素姬声明
·韩永贵在捷克国会的缅甸问题讲话
·众合法土族政党支持联合国代表代发的昂山素姬声明
·缅甸和平民主阵线10月18日声明
·人权特使会成为甘巴里第二吗?
·与韩永贵漫谈丹瑞昂山素姬走向
·赛万赛笑缅甸军政府杀一儆百
·对掸邦昆沙的另类盖棺论定
·缅甸丹瑞大帝笑评东盟宪章
·缅甸大帝与总理谈东盟来龙去脉
·缅甸众土族委员会拜访印度观察家研究基金会
·缅甸众土族委员会答印度记者问
·苦修我不入地狱谁入地狱的缅甸高僧
·巴瓯民族解放组织支持昂山素姬声明
·缅甸丹瑞大帝2007年12月3日语录
·缅甸民族委员会欢呼美国HR3890号制裁决议
·缅甸问题根源是彬龙精神不见了
·克伦族谴责缅甸种族灭绝内战
·缅甸丹瑞大帝笑骂民主
·缅甸学运领袖波昂觉永垂不朽!
·缅甸联邦土族与少数民族问题
·缅甸各族欢呼联合国原住民权利宣言
·缅甸若开邦人民致函联合国
·纪念缅甸独立节60周年
·缅甸掸族公主痛斥军政府
·缅甸土族哭祭60周年独立节
·古来稀大哥的前列腺毛病
·缅甸僧伽与人民,是鱼水关系
·缅甸僧伽们入世行动了
·钦族阵线谈印度与缅甸军政府
·缅甸民族委员会08年元月24日声明
·缅甸掸族拟加入众土族委员会ENC
·缅甸掸族领袖赛万赛答缅甸文摘问
·由红色高棉想到缅甸军政府
·缅甸掸族的61周年掸邦节
·克伦族掸族领袖游说欧盟6年15次
·平等、民主、发展——救缅甸!
·与赛万赛谈2008年初缅甸局势
·缅甸联邦民族委员会对曼侠被杀害之声明
·人倒下,但曼侠英魂永远活着!
·缅甸革命师生痛失曼侠学兄
·曼侠名列缅甸军政府刺杀单
·谈缅甸国民大会、公投、普选
·美国教授讲缅甸的过去现在未来
·反对缅甸5月公投与2010年普选?
[列出本栏目所有内容]
欢迎在此做广告
Talks With Hso Khan Pha Who Declared Shan Independence

(S.H.A.N. & Burma’s News Published by Burma’s Chinese 貌强 12-6-05)

   By TAYZA

   Recently, I ,TAYZA, got a chance to talk to the leader of a Shan Group campaigning for a totally Independent Shan State. His name is Tiger Yawnghwe or His Royal Highness Prince Hso Khan Pha; he is the eldest son of Sao Shwe Thaik, the former Saopha[Prince] of Yawnghwe[Nyaung-Shwe] and the first President of Burma after Burma's Independence from British colonial rule. In the following excerpts I'll refer him as 'Sao Hso', and me 'Tayza'. Sao Hso... "My family have been inolved with the founding of the Union of Burma in 1948 and the Panglong Conferences that culminated in the signing of the Panglong Agreement in 1947 - the basis for the foundation of the Union that was so rudely destroyed in 1962 by Ne Win."

   Tayza..."I'm really glad to get a chance to know a descendent of our first President of independent Burma."

   Sao Hso... "Might I add that the problem that exist is not ethic "minority" rights versus the "majority" Burmese rights but rather of equality of rights for all. The 1948 Union of Burma was understood by us to be a federal union of equals. And though the intent of the 1948 Constitution was federal, in rushing it through the Constituent Assembly by the AFPFL[Fa-sa-pa-la], the federal Union in practice became unitary. When we during 1958-62 tried to institute constitutional reforms in the Union Parliament towards a more equitable federal system as envisaged by the 1947 Panglong Agreement, Ne Win staged his military coup and he and his successor Burmese military troops in Shan country raped, murdered & tortured to oppress, suppress and intimidate."

   Tayza... "I support all ethnic groups' rights to have their own federal states, probably in US style or Canadian style. I understand that Quebac Province in Canada is an autonomic federal state. Shan state can be like that? I never believe that "total separation of Union of Burma/Myanmar into a large number of totally separated & independent but very small tiny little countries" might be a wise decision."

   Sao Hso... "Yugoslavia did break up into its components parts and theorectically there is no reason why the former and defunct Union - made so by successive Burmese military regimes could not do the same. The Shan States are larger both in population then Cambodia for instance and larger in area than some 24 States of the US and 20 or so Nation-States in Europe. The Shan & Karenni has every right to secceed and so guaranteed in the 1948 Constitution. There is another alternative that we have - we could form a federal union - United States of Southeast Asia or Southeast Asian Union a la EU with out the Burmese for example. But the Shan could certainly go it alone

   Shan is a Burmese rendering of Siam as you know, & the Thai call us Thai-yai or Elder Thai - and Tai or Thai is only a dialectical rendering. The Tai Speaking Peoples stretch from NE India, through Burma, the Kachin and Shan States, Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam and south and southwest China - Premier Chou-en-lai of PRC[Communist Mainland China] said in 1957 to my parents that in China there were then 100million (? 1 million ?) Tai/Dai Speaking Peoples in China. For myself, I believe we all should talk - as Winston Churchill said "jaw jaw is better than war war". Some of us feel uncomfortable in talking heart to heart with Burmese who often become belligerent and abusive."

   Tayza... "Although Shans can join with either Burmese or Thais or Chinese, I think it would be better to go on joining with Burmese; my idea is why would you topple the apple cart. We should sort out problems between ourselves, Shans and Burmese, rather than engaging with Thais/Chinese, it will just make matters more complicated."

   Sao Hso... "Indeed we had high hopes too in 1947 and expected to have occupation & conflicts behind us and to avoid the sort of fighting and bloody killings that took place between 1812-19 when the Burmese kings of Mandalay tried to conquer and subdue the Shan Ahom kingdom in Assam where the Burmese general Maha Bandula's troops committed undescribable cruelties and barbarities as to dessimate something like 2/3 of the population and certainly 1/3 of the men and boys - disemboweling them, eating their flesh and burning them alive in cages to intimidate and suppress the Shan Ahom of Assam ref: History of Assam by Sir Edward Gaits. This event so weakened and disorganised the Shan Ahom that by 1839 the kingdom was completely annexed by the British. Before that from about 1220 - 1812 AD they maintained themselves under one Dynasty, (that of Mong Mao 568-1604 AD when its descendants ruled Hsenwi or Theinni in Burmese). Indeed the Shan Ahom resisted conquest by the Mughals who had conquered much of India before the British incursion.

    We are now in the 21st century, not 200 years ago. After WWII we had hoped to avoid bloodshed and war - and invasion by the Burma Independence Army under Aung San, an army that had been trained and arrmed by the Japanese while we had no army at all except police forces. The British told my father to expect no assistance whatever should the BIA under Aung San invade the Shan States and that they advised us Shan to make the best deal we could - hence the 1947 Panglong Agreement or Treaty. And I might add that the Chin, Kachin & Karenni agreed to the Union because the Shan had. Unfortunately as it turned out we merely delayed invasion and occupation by the Burmese Army by 14 year to 1962.

   These are issues that are not easily resolved and after nearly half a century of being raped, tortured and murdered can you honestly say that a battered spouse of either sex cannot sue for divorce but must grin and bear in the hope that the abuser is going to miraculously change and become an angel? And under these existing conditions - the grass looks certainly greener on the other side. A magic wand cannot be waved to wishfully make things better. Wishful thinking resolves nothing and to solve any problem we need to look at all angles and discuss all issues pleasant and unpleasant. Tayza... "If we are a family, I think, the oppressed burmese children and the bullied Shan mother should join hands to fight against the bullying military man in their House/Home. I won't want my mother to leave our family and marry a Chinese stranger or a Thai neighbour. Anyway, thanks to your kind and patient explanation about the background history of your Shans' struggles, I got a lot of insight on some very important historical aspects which happened long before I was born."

   Sao Hso... "It is truly encouraging to discuss matters of common interest, and it is only through honest discussions like these that real understanding and mutual respect will blossom. I declared Shan independence on the wish and will of the majority of the Shan people - people in 48 of 56 Se-Viengs or Townships of the Shan States voted for Independence following a secret balloting that took 5 years to complete and 47 years after we had the Constitutional Right to Secceed. Thus this decision was not taken lightly or hastily. In 1947 at Panglong, the vote to form a Union and join with Burma was only narrowly won after a long and heated debate - the very narrow majority won the day and the minority who lost by a hair's breath conceded and obeyed the rules of parliamentary democracy - this is something the Burmese generals are loathed to do. And because the Shan agreed, the Chin, Kachin and Karenni followed suite. The final say rests with the Shan People but looking at it objectively, we have many options: -

   1。Confirm our Independence.

   2。Form a United States of Southeast Asia - USSA with the Arakan, Chin, Kachin, Karenni, Mon & Karen.

   3. Form an EU like grouping with the above partners, SEAU.

   4.Negotiate a totally new federal union of equal partners to include the Burmese or Burma State - with effective safeguards so that we do not have a repeat of the Ne Win-BSPP/SLORC/SPDC dictatorship; and with a totally new name.

[下一页]

©Boxun News Network All Rights Reserved.
所有栏目和文章由作者或专栏管理员整理制作,均不代表博讯立场